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January 4, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Excellent ending. I would of been happy any way it went except for maybe Tails dying but he didnt so everything in the world is peachy!
As for weasel,
To consent to something you would have full knowledge of what that entails and obviously as you have stated this would be impossible for Tails right now and if he had this knowledge it would probably be unlikely he would. So nothing to add to my worries there! I would faithfully wait for him to reach adulthood, of course first Id have to find some way to trancend myself into fictional universes but thats another challenge altoghter X3
As for weasel,
To consent to something you would have full knowledge of what that entails and obviously as you have stated this would be impossible for Tails right now and if he had this knowledge it would probably be unlikely he would. So nothing to add to my worries there! I would faithfully wait for him to reach adulthood, of course first Id have to find some way to trancend myself into fictional universes but thats another challenge altoghter X3
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January 4, 2007 at 12:00 AM
or this Voice of Reason thing I mean, sorry Weasel....beeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.........::zonk::
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January 2, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Wasn't what I wanted, wanted to see him turn back to being good, though likely still mentally unstable (at least to an extent) and hated by lots of people, to live a life full of being hated and being the outcast here.
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January 2, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Sonics a queer.
Good story/ending though
Good story/ending though
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January 1, 2007 at 12:00 AM
NO! He dies to swiftly! Make him be hanged by his own intestine!
Alright well. It sucked Shadow died so painlessly. Should have done something more to him. As for sequal.. Do you really think its fair to end it like this? I say yes! Bring him back! Make a sequal! I wanna see him suffer!
Alright well. It sucked Shadow died so painlessly. Should have done something more to him. As for sequal.. Do you really think its fair to end it like this? I say yes! Bring him back! Make a sequal! I wanna see him suffer!
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January 1, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Goodness, what a sad ending. I can't help but understand Knuckles position but still think he's a complete asswhole. So odd...
Anywho, at least Shadow got redeption of some sort, and that was better than nothing. And I rather like that in the end, Tikal was absolutely right: had violence not been the answer, then maybe the outcome could have been happier for everyone.
As for a sequel...I really don't see why there should be one, unless you want to have Shadow live anyway. And then what exactly? Have him try to go down the path of goodness only for 'the voices' to come back? Knuckles gonna be the bastard bad guy? Another excuse for you to put Shadow/Amy (and have it be legitimate) in your story(ies)? Oh yeah, I can just see it: Even though Amy was savagely raped, she completely falls in love with Shadow in the end because deep down, he was a good guy. How...unrealistic.
Okay, okay, I'll give it a rest. Though I suppose you could do a sequal...it would just depend drastically on how you chose to do it. (Would Knuckles liking Sonic come into play later on...like in a baaaad way? lmao)
Not a bad ending overall, though *slightly* disappointing.
Anywho, at least Shadow got redeption of some sort, and that was better than nothing. And I rather like that in the end, Tikal was absolutely right: had violence not been the answer, then maybe the outcome could have been happier for everyone.
As for a sequel...I really don't see why there should be one, unless you want to have Shadow live anyway. And then what exactly? Have him try to go down the path of goodness only for 'the voices' to come back? Knuckles gonna be the bastard bad guy? Another excuse for you to put Shadow/Amy (and have it be legitimate) in your story(ies)? Oh yeah, I can just see it: Even though Amy was savagely raped, she completely falls in love with Shadow in the end because deep down, he was a good guy. How...unrealistic.
Okay, okay, I'll give it a rest. Though I suppose you could do a sequal...it would just depend drastically on how you chose to do it. (Would Knuckles liking Sonic come into play later on...like in a baaaad way? lmao)
Not a bad ending overall, though *slightly* disappointing.
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January 1, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Okay, I thought I was pressed for time but since I'm actually not, allow me elborate on my previous views and review:
1. My disappointment
The only reason I found it disappointing to begin with was because--hell I don't know. It was interesting seeing Sonic, after everything that had been done to his friends and the anger he felt, still try and safe Shadow--only for Knuckles to kill him in the end anyway. The situation itself was handled on point, as I honestly believe that's how Knuckles would have resolved the conflict reguardless, as he's too hot headed and violent to really think at the entire issue at hand. Yes Shadow was a murdering rapist, but there was something terribly wrong with him and that's something both Tikal and Sonic at the very least was able to see and take into consideration. I'm not saying that makes both bigger people, just that they try to have more of an understanding and try to put things into persepective reguardless of what has happened and who did what.
That's why I think Knuckles is an asshole yet I understand him: his reaction was completely justifiable given his personality and views but rather you want to admit it or not, Tikal and Sonic were correct as well: two wrongs don't make a right and just because they were choosing instead to try and give Shadow some kind of support, forgiveness or help didn't make them foolish or weak. (No foolish would have been the Sonic acting obliviously stupid of the situation and the actions and completely tossing it over his shoulder as if it never occured.)
So yes, I am upset that Shadow died at the end. Sure a 'monster' died and 'got what he deserved' but I've always felt that redemption was always better than revenge: it shows a stronger moral and character once the transformation is complete.
Another reason that I didn't like the ending was because there were a few things that weren't resolved--or rather they weren't because Shadow died and we never got to see what would happen next.
2. My Amy/Shadow Crack
This was me being sincale in a sense but to be honest, I have seen rather ridiculous situations in Sonic stories (I won't always say it was Amy) where the character was raped, the rapist goes through some kind of salvation type thing, and then WTF all of a sudden those two are together. To be honest, given the premise of the story and the fact that it would still appear that Amy still has feelings for Sonic--if she wants to be with any man right now--not to mention the other issues at hand, I would find well...silly. Amy is still friggin 12 and to be honest, I'm still frowning about her having a baby. I mean really, that's so complicating: what should she honestly do? Have the baby and give it away? Abort the baby? Have the baby and keep it, yet be slightly jaded against it given the circumstances of it's birth? Have the baby yet love it anyway, realizing it wasn't it's fault and take things accordingly? I mean what's the best, realistic decision given the circumstances and her age? Decisions...decisions (and that's ONLY if there's a sequel...) Now don't get me wrong, I definately think that given time, Amy could be forgiving...but after everything she's been through, do I even remotely see her sucking it up that much and just...getting together with Shadow? If she were maybe in Tikal's position or even Sonic's, MAYBE. But she's had a very, VERY tramatizing experience and what appears to be, a lasting reminder. And while forgiveness is one thing...romance and such is a total different thing and I honestly feel that she couldn't do that.
3. A Sequel
To be honest, I'm 50/50 on this. I mean what would be the point to be honest? I mean I'm hoping your more creative than to go the whole 'Shadow's baby is evil/takes his place route'. Then, if Shadow were to stay dead, then what would happen? Knuckles goes insane and tries to take out everyone? If you bring Shadow back, does he try to redeem himself only to start failing as the 'voices' come back and he has to deal with everyone (save maybe Sonic and a 'keeping his distance' Tails) pretty much hating him? Would Knuckles be the villian (or rather,the slightly self-rightous villan?)? And what about him 'liking' Sonic? And will Tails ever be able to sit down again? What about that damn baby Amy's pregnate with now? Or Lady Vanilla? Will she be as forgiving to Shadow? Would Shadow and Sonic actually get together somehow or at the very least, become good friends? (I still have no problem with SLASH and I was holding out on my hopes until the end there...lmao) Or hell, break Tikal back out and put him with her--okay maybe not because her Mary Sue -ness would make me want to slap babies after a while...but you get my drift. Or hell, who said Shadow had to be with anyone. I just want to him to have a strong, supportive something so that he can get the encouragement and help he needs.
Overall, I do love Harley's crazy ass Shadow and it was definately refreshing to see to all the Sonic characters for the most part (not counting Shadow and having Rouge's bad traits overly emphazied) completely in character and adapting to the situation as they probably would. This is by far, my favorite story by you guys, save the badass Tails one and for that reason alone, I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel. I just hope it be kept just as interesting and the characteristics done as properly. Okay seriously, Knuckles being the badguy in the sequel is sounding better and better all the time. It's so rarely done and do love my Knucklehead. (Though actually, I did like that Knuckles/Amy one. That was scary interesting...)
So in all, this story definately deserves a 4/5 (Damn those stupid stars remaining at 3...). And I hope to see more stories that branch out from Amy/Shadow from you guys. (If I could pay you, I'd bribe you to right a badass SLASH with Shadow/Sonic for me. You guys are so great I'd love to see what you can do with that. But alas, I shall only continue to sit on my hands.)
You both have a great day, thanks for the wonderful adddition to my favorites Sonic Fanfics list, and I hope to see something new soon!
1. My disappointment
The only reason I found it disappointing to begin with was because--hell I don't know. It was interesting seeing Sonic, after everything that had been done to his friends and the anger he felt, still try and safe Shadow--only for Knuckles to kill him in the end anyway. The situation itself was handled on point, as I honestly believe that's how Knuckles would have resolved the conflict reguardless, as he's too hot headed and violent to really think at the entire issue at hand. Yes Shadow was a murdering rapist, but there was something terribly wrong with him and that's something both Tikal and Sonic at the very least was able to see and take into consideration. I'm not saying that makes both bigger people, just that they try to have more of an understanding and try to put things into persepective reguardless of what has happened and who did what.
That's why I think Knuckles is an asshole yet I understand him: his reaction was completely justifiable given his personality and views but rather you want to admit it or not, Tikal and Sonic were correct as well: two wrongs don't make a right and just because they were choosing instead to try and give Shadow some kind of support, forgiveness or help didn't make them foolish or weak. (No foolish would have been the Sonic acting obliviously stupid of the situation and the actions and completely tossing it over his shoulder as if it never occured.)
So yes, I am upset that Shadow died at the end. Sure a 'monster' died and 'got what he deserved' but I've always felt that redemption was always better than revenge: it shows a stronger moral and character once the transformation is complete.
Another reason that I didn't like the ending was because there were a few things that weren't resolved--or rather they weren't because Shadow died and we never got to see what would happen next.
2. My Amy/Shadow Crack
This was me being sincale in a sense but to be honest, I have seen rather ridiculous situations in Sonic stories (I won't always say it was Amy) where the character was raped, the rapist goes through some kind of salvation type thing, and then WTF all of a sudden those two are together. To be honest, given the premise of the story and the fact that it would still appear that Amy still has feelings for Sonic--if she wants to be with any man right now--not to mention the other issues at hand, I would find well...silly. Amy is still friggin 12 and to be honest, I'm still frowning about her having a baby. I mean really, that's so complicating: what should she honestly do? Have the baby and give it away? Abort the baby? Have the baby and keep it, yet be slightly jaded against it given the circumstances of it's birth? Have the baby yet love it anyway, realizing it wasn't it's fault and take things accordingly? I mean what's the best, realistic decision given the circumstances and her age? Decisions...decisions (and that's ONLY if there's a sequel...) Now don't get me wrong, I definately think that given time, Amy could be forgiving...but after everything she's been through, do I even remotely see her sucking it up that much and just...getting together with Shadow? If she were maybe in Tikal's position or even Sonic's, MAYBE. But she's had a very, VERY tramatizing experience and what appears to be, a lasting reminder. And while forgiveness is one thing...romance and such is a total different thing and I honestly feel that she couldn't do that.
3. A Sequel
To be honest, I'm 50/50 on this. I mean what would be the point to be honest? I mean I'm hoping your more creative than to go the whole 'Shadow's baby is evil/takes his place route'. Then, if Shadow were to stay dead, then what would happen? Knuckles goes insane and tries to take out everyone? If you bring Shadow back, does he try to redeem himself only to start failing as the 'voices' come back and he has to deal with everyone (save maybe Sonic and a 'keeping his distance' Tails) pretty much hating him? Would Knuckles be the villian (or rather,the slightly self-rightous villan?)? And what about him 'liking' Sonic? And will Tails ever be able to sit down again? What about that damn baby Amy's pregnate with now? Or Lady Vanilla? Will she be as forgiving to Shadow? Would Shadow and Sonic actually get together somehow or at the very least, become good friends? (I still have no problem with SLASH and I was holding out on my hopes until the end there...lmao) Or hell, break Tikal back out and put him with her--okay maybe not because her Mary Sue -ness would make me want to slap babies after a while...but you get my drift. Or hell, who said Shadow had to be with anyone. I just want to him to have a strong, supportive something so that he can get the encouragement and help he needs.
Overall, I do love Harley's crazy ass Shadow and it was definately refreshing to see to all the Sonic characters for the most part (not counting Shadow and having Rouge's bad traits overly emphazied) completely in character and adapting to the situation as they probably would. This is by far, my favorite story by you guys, save the badass Tails one and for that reason alone, I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel. I just hope it be kept just as interesting and the characteristics done as properly. Okay seriously, Knuckles being the badguy in the sequel is sounding better and better all the time. It's so rarely done and do love my Knucklehead. (Though actually, I did like that Knuckles/Amy one. That was scary interesting...)
So in all, this story definately deserves a 4/5 (Damn those stupid stars remaining at 3...). And I hope to see more stories that branch out from Amy/Shadow from you guys. (If I could pay you, I'd bribe you to right a badass SLASH with Shadow/Sonic for me. You guys are so great I'd love to see what you can do with that. But alas, I shall only continue to sit on my hands.)
You both have a great day, thanks for the wonderful adddition to my favorites Sonic Fanfics list, and I hope to see something new soon!
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January 1, 2007 at 12:00 AM
An... Interesting look at psychology, and the effects of rape on victims, the raper and those it affects beyond the victim. Not quite my cup of tea, but good work as always.
Frankly, I've only one thing to point out as a glaring criticsm: Shadow cannot die. It is literally an impossibility, at the very most he MAY be killable by either total immolation or decapitation/complete destruction of brain. This is the definition of immortal, which Shadow is. In truth, immortality is the former (complete immunity to death, no matter the means used) though some people seem to prefer the latter, something I disagree with.
Regardless of this, a gunshot wound to the chest would NOT kill Shadow, even if it was a plasma weapon or whatever Knuckles picked up. Depending on the method of his immortality, it might put Shadow into a catatonic state until his body regenerates, but under no circumstances would it kill him. And that's putting aside the point that people in your fics seems to forget entirely about the protective abilities of the not-uncommon Power Rings...
All in all, a good story, but it consistently irks me how mortal you portray Shadow as when he simply is no such thing.
Frankly, I've only one thing to point out as a glaring criticsm: Shadow cannot die. It is literally an impossibility, at the very most he MAY be killable by either total immolation or decapitation/complete destruction of brain. This is the definition of immortal, which Shadow is. In truth, immortality is the former (complete immunity to death, no matter the means used) though some people seem to prefer the latter, something I disagree with.
Regardless of this, a gunshot wound to the chest would NOT kill Shadow, even if it was a plasma weapon or whatever Knuckles picked up. Depending on the method of his immortality, it might put Shadow into a catatonic state until his body regenerates, but under no circumstances would it kill him. And that's putting aside the point that people in your fics seems to forget entirely about the protective abilities of the not-uncommon Power Rings...
All in all, a good story, but it consistently irks me how mortal you portray Shadow as when he simply is no such thing.
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January 1, 2007 at 12:00 AM
I´ve read every chapter and I liked the story very much.
But I hoped that Shadow wouldn´t die. But hey, maybe he isn´t dead yet and the doctors are able to reanimate him^^
Besides there´s still Amy´s baby.
Well,a sequel would be cool.
But I hoped that Shadow wouldn´t die. But hey, maybe he isn´t dead yet and the doctors are able to reanimate him^^
Besides there´s still Amy´s baby.
Well,a sequel would be cool.
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January 1, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Knuckles is 100% right. Shadow deserves to die like Knuckles said. I can't believe that Sonic is still trying to save and protect Shadow after all the bad things that he done. He raped and killed most of Sonic's friends and even raped Amy and got her pregnant. Sonic tried to explain to Shadow before that he didn't drop him but what did Shadow do after that? He tried to kill Amy again and he even raped Tails. So yeah, I'm glad that Shadow died cause if Sonic somehow saved him, then Sonic is risking his friends lives again.